Archive for September, 2008

Berlin plans ‘e-mobility’ electric car network

Wednesday, September 10th, 2008

I saw this item from SmartPlanet News this morning.  Could this work in the U.S.?  I am especially intrigued by the last paragraph, …Utility RWE said it envisions that car batteries from the 100 electric cars in Berlin could feed electricity back into the grid to lessen the load during peak times…. Comments?

One of the charging stations in Berlin

One of the charging stations in Berlin

Car giant Daimler and German utility RWE will launch a network of 500 battery-charging stations next year for a trial meant to give electric car drivers the freedom to power up on the go.

The ‘e-mobility Berlin’ project will see Daimler and its Smart wing supply 100 electric city cars. RWE will install and run the charging stations in Berlin.

The cars will be equipped with communication equipment that will allow consumers to have their cars charged at different locations and billed to one account. Although the exact models are yet to be confirmed, the Smart Ed is a natural choice and Daimler told SmartPlanet an electric version of an A or B-class Mercedes Benz could also be used.

Charging stations are expected to be installed at people’s homes as well as public spaces, such as offices, shopping centers, and car parks.

The cars’ lithium-ion batteries (from an undisclosed supplier) will be optimized for rapid charging and longer range. Those same batteries will be used in a Mercedes hybrid model as early as next year, the companies said.

The effort, modelled on a similar effort in London, is being financially supported by German government agencies as part of environmental policy.

Project Better Place, founded by former SAP executive Shai Agassi, is taking a similar approach in an effort to make electric car ownership more attractive.

It has signed on the governments of Israel and Denmark to test a system where electric car drivers in a restricted driving area can replace batteries in a network of stations.

Utility RWE said it envisions that car batteries from the 100 electric cars in Berlin could feed electricity back into the grid to lessen the load during peak times.

Time to reconsider criticism of ethanol

Wednesday, September 10th, 2008

Time to reconsider criticism of ethanol

Below is an op-ed item published in the Wichita Eagle.  Go to http://www.kansas.com/120/story/517310.html to see the item.  While written by an ethanol industry executive at ICM, he makes some valid points.  I trust his statistics are correct.  I don’t think someone in his position would “fabricate” misleading statistics.  On a side note, he raises a point that has interested me lately, too.  Just the other day, I stopped at a station to fuel my Sportster and it had a “This fuel may contain up to 10% ethanol” sticker on it, but it was the same price as Regular at the other nearby stations.  I didn’t check the octane rating at the time, but the next time I’m there, I will.  If indeed its Regular is 89 octane, it’s a bargain, since it’s the octane equivalent of mid grade at the other nearby stations.  Has anyone else experienced this and checked the octane ratings?  What are your thoughts?

Time to reconsider criticism of ethanol

In the past, the ethanol industry has been blamed for high food prices and environmental damage.

Last month, the EPA along with several major universities corrected those misconceptions, stating that ethanol is not the root cause for higher grocery prices. In fact, corn prices have recently fallen sharply despite increased ethanol production.

While we know ethanol is not the only answer to long-term energy independence, it is helping lower gasoline prices today. Consumers need to know the truth that oil importers refuse to tell: ethanol is a great deal for our country. Ethanol, in addition to domestically produced oil, is reducing the $1 billion-plus that leave our country every day to pay for a consumable product.

Both ethanol and gasoline are consumable products; however, with ethanol we retain the dollars to do it again.

Merrill Lynch estimates that removing biofuels from the market would result in gasoline prices 15 percent higher than they are today. Based on that analysis, with oil at $110 a barrel and U.S. demand estimated at 9 million barrels a day, ethanol is saving taxpayers $54 billion annually.

Oil importers would have you believe ethanol producers are getting the 51-cent-a-gallon ethanol tax subsidy. In reality, the refiners and gasoline retailers are putting it in their pockets when they purchase ethanol cheaper than the wholesale price of gas and then charge the consumer more for the ethanol-blended fuel.

Many people do not realize that when they are filling their car with unleaded, they are often getting a fuel containing 10 percent ethanol (E-10). If station owners were passing the savings from blending ethanol on to their customers, E-10 should be 5 cents cheaper than unleaded. That’s not happening.

At TJ Convenience, a mom-and-pop store in Colwich, ICM is kick-starting a program that demonstrates how important ethanol is — to consumers, to agriculture, to the environment and to our nation’s security.

At the station, we use special blender pumps to mix fuel on demand to create blends ranging from 10 to 85 percent ethanol. We’ve priced E-10 5 cents below unleaded, and higher percentages of ethanol-enriched fuel are discounted to reflect the subsidy as well as the percentage of ethanol.

Next time you fill up, take note of the octane ratings and prices. Unleaded with no ethanol has an octane rating of 87; E-10 has an octane rating of 89. Unleaded containing 10 percent ethanol is the same thing as 89-octane “midgrade.” I encourage you to ask your local station why they charge more for mid-grade when they’re getting it for less.

As recently as 2006, taxpayers paid farmers $1.8 billion to supplement their income from grain that was priced below the cost of production. Part of that money was also used to pay farmers not to farm 35 million acres of federal Conservation Reserve Program land — 20 million of which could be used for grain without damaging the environment. If the government would release some of this land, we could see lower grain prices and even lower fuel prices while, at the same time, increasing our country’s revenue from agriculture.

Many incorrectly believe that using corn to make fuel means taking food from people’s mouths. Ethanol production merely removes the starch from the corn. Protein and oil are processed into distillers grains, a nutritious livestock feed marketed to feedlots at a price that reduces their feeding cost. Additionally, ICM is perfecting a process that creates additional food-grade products, allowing the most nutritious parts of the corn to remain in the human food supply chain.

It is important for consumers to know that ethanol is environmentally friendly too. The United States Geological Survey says it takes 1,851 gallons of water to extract, transport and refine one barrel of oil or 28 gallons of gasoline, compared with three gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol from non-irrigated corn.

A commonly used lifecycle analysis model says that roughly 17.5 pounds of carbon dioxide-equivalent in greenhouse gases are emitted during the lifecycle production and use of one gallon of gasoline on an ethanol-equivalent basis. Most experts are in agreement that the production and use of corn-based ethanol reduces the lifecycle emissions by 20 to 40 percent per gallon of ethanol.

ICM is proud to be part of the answer, and even prouder to be doing our work in the heart of our nation’s agricultural belt — hand in hand with the great leaders and farmers of Kansas.

Dave Vander Griend is chief executive of Colwich-based ICM.

One Response to “Time to reconsider criticism of ethanol”

  1. renergie Says:
    Louisiana Enacts the Most Comprehensive Advanced Biofuel Legislation in the Nation
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    Advanced Biofuel Industry Development Initiative Benefits Consumers, Farmers and Gas Station Owners with Localized “Field-to-Pump” Strategy

    Baton Rouge, LA (September 10, 2008) – Governor Bobby Jindal has signed into law the Advanced Biofuel Industry Development Initiative, the most comprehensive and far-reaching state legislation in the nation enacted to develop a statewide advanced biofuel industry. Louisiana is the first state to enact alternative transportation fuel legislation that includes a variable blending pump pilot program and a hydrous ethanol pilot program.

    Field-to-Pump Strategy
    The legislature found that the proper development of an advanced biofuel industry in Louisiana requires implementation of the following comprehensive “field-to-pump” strategy developed by Renergie, Inc.:

    (1) Feedstock Other Than Corn
    (a) derived solely from Louisiana harvested crops;
    (b) capable of an annual yield of at least 600 gallons of ethanol per acre;
    (c) requiring no more than one-half of the water required to grow corn;
    (d) tolerant to high temperature and waterlogging;
    (e) resistant to drought and saline-alkaline soils;
    (f) capable of being grown in marginal soils, ranging from heavy clay to light sand;
    (g) requiring no more than one-third of the nitrogen required to grow corn, thereby reducing the risk of contamination of the waters of the state; and
    (h) requiring no more than one-half of the energy necessary to convert corn into ethanol.

    (2) Decentralized Network of Small Advanced Biofuel Manufacturing Facilities
    Smaller is better. The distributed nature of a small advanced biofuel manufacturing facility network reduces feedstock supply risk, does not burden local water supplies and provides for broader based economic development. Each advanced biofuel manufacturing facility operating in Louisiana will produce no less than 5 million gallons of advanced biofuel per year and no more than 15 million gallons of advanced biofuel per year.

    (3) Market Expansion
    Advanced biofuel supply and demand shall be expanded beyond the 10% blend market by blending fuel-grade anhydrous ethanol with gasoline at the gas station pump. Variable blending pumps, directly installed and operated at local gas stations by a qualified small advanced biofuel manufacturing facility, shall offer the consumer a less expensive substitute for unleaded gasoline in the form of E10, E20, E30 and E85.

    Pilot Programs
    (1) Advanced Biofuel Variable Blending Pumps - The blending of fuels with advanced biofuel percentages between 10 percent and 85 percent will be permitted on a trial basis until January 1, 2012. During this period the Louisiana Department of Agriculture and Forestry Division of Weights & Measures will monitor the equipment used to dispense the ethanol blends to ascertain that the equipment is suitable and capable of producing an accurate measurement.

    (2) Hydrous Ethanol - The use of hydrous ethanol blends of E10, E20, E30 and E85 in motor vehicles specifically selected for test purposes will be permitted on a trial basis until January 1, 2012. During this period the Louisiana Department of Agriculture and Forestry Division of Weights & Measures will monitor the performance of the motor vehicles. The hydrous blends will be tested for blend optimization with respect to fuel consumption and engine emissions. Preliminary tests conducted in Europe have proven that the use of hydrous ethanol, which eliminates the need for the hydrous-to-anhydrous dehydration processing step, results in an energy savings of between ten percent and forty-five percent during processing, a four percent product volume increase, higher mileage per gallon, a cleaner engine interior, and a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions.

    Act No. 382, entitled “The Advanced Biofuel Industry Development Initiative,” was co-authored by 27 members of the Legislature. The original bill was drafted by Renergie, Inc. Representative Jonathan W. Perry (R - District 47), with the support of Senator Nick Gautreaux (D - District 26), was the primary author of the bill. Reflecting on the signing of Act No. 382 into law, Brian J. Donovan, CEO of Renergie, Inc. said, “I am pleased that the legislature and governor of the great State of Louisiana have chosen to lead the nation in moving ethanol beyond being just a blending component in gasoline to a fuel that is more economical, cleaner, renewable, and more efficient than unleaded gasoline. The two pilot programs, providing for an advanced biofuel variable blending pump trial and a hydrous ethanol trial, established by the State of Louisiana should be adopted by each and every state in our country.”

    State Agencies Must Purchase or Lease Vehicles That Use Alternative Fuels
    Louisiana’s Advanced Biofuel Industry Development Initiative further states, “The commissioner of administration shall not purchase or lease any motor vehicle for use by any state agency unless that vehicle is capable of and equipped for using an alternative fuel that results in lower emissions of oxides of nitrogen, volatile organic compounds, carbon monoxide, or particulates or any combination thereof that meet or exceed federal Clean Air Act standards.”

    Advanced Biofuel Price Preference for State Agencies
    Louisiana’s Advanced Biofuel Industry Development Initiative provides that a governmental body, state educational institution, or instrumentality of the state that performs essential governmental functions on a statewide or local basis is entitled to purchase E20, E30 or E85 advanced biofuel at a price equal to fifteen percent (15%) less per gallon than the price of unleaded gasoline for use in any motor vehicle.

    Economic Benefits
    The development of an advanced biofuel industry will help rebuild the local and regional economies devastated as a result of hurricanes Katrina and Rita by providing:
    (1) increased value to the feedstock crops which will benefit local farmers and provide more revenue to the local community;
    (2) increased investments in plants and equipment which will stimulate the local economy by providing construction jobs initially and the chance for full-time employment after the plant is completed;
    (3) secondary employment as associated industries develop due to plant co-products becoming available at a competitive price; and
    (4) increased local and state revenues collected from plant operations will stimulate local and state tax revenues and provide funds for improvements to the community and to the region.

    “Representative Perry and Senator Gautreaux have worked tirelessly to craft comprehensive advanced biofuel legislation which will maximize rural development, benefit consumers, farmers and gas station owners while also protecting the environment and reducing the burden on local water supplies,” said Donovan. “Representative Perry, Senator Gautreaux, and Dr. Strain, Commissioner of the Louisiana Department of Agriculture and Forestry, should be praised for their leadership on this issue.”

    About Renergie
    Renergie was formed on March 22, 2006 for the purpose of raising capital to develop, construct, own and operate a network of ten ethanol plants in the parishes of the State of Louisiana which were devastated by hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Each ethanol plant will have a production capacity of five million gallons per year (5 MGY) of fuel-grade ethanol. Renergie’s “field-to-pump” strategy is to produce non-corn ethanol locally and directly market non-corn ethanol locally. On February 26, 2008, Renergie was one of 8 recipients, selected from 139 grant applicants, to share $12.5 million from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection’s Renewable Energy Technologies Grants Program. Renergie received $1,500,483 (partial funding) in grant money to design and build Florida’s first ethanol plant capable of producing fuel-grade ethanol solely from sweet sorghum juice. On April 2, 2008, Enterprise Florida, Inc., the state’s economic development organization, selected Renergie as one of Florida’s most innovative technology companies in the alternative energy sector. By blending fuel-grade ethanol with gasoline at the gas station pump, Renergie will offer the consumer a fuel that is more economical, cleaner, renewable, and more efficient than unleaded gasoline. Moreover, the Renergie project will mark the first time that Louisiana farmers will share in the profits realized from the sale of value-added products made from their crops.

Air-powered Go-cart Hits The Track

Tuesday, September 9th, 2008

Since it’s a slow news day for articles that may interest our readers, I dug back into the archives and found this interesting item.  Go to http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080606091445.htm to read the full article. Below are excerpts from the article. This could be a good future AFV Lab project.

Air-powered Go-cart Hits The Track

ScienceDaily (June 11, 2008) — It’s Sunday afternoon. Thousands of fans cheer wildly as race cars fly by at speeds nearing 200 mph for 200 laps. They whiz down the pit road making pit stops, changing tires and refueling. Only, the tanks are not being filled with gas; they’re being filled with air.

That scenario may sound futuristic, but it may not be long before we see air-powered engines take to the track. Five Dalhousie mechanical engineering students have already started the journey down that road….

Dalhousie engineering student, David Alderson test drives an air-powered go cart. (Credit: Nick Pearce)

Dalhousie engineering student, David Alderson test drives an air-powered go cart. (Credit: Nick Pearce)

…The students modified a 40-year-old snowmobile engine and ran compressed air through the engine to produce power similar to a gas engine. They attached the engine to a refurbished go-kart using two scuba tanks to house the air. The air is released through a standard scuba fitting with a high-flow regulator. The released air travels through tubing to a ball-valve connected to the foot pedal and throttle. “It operates much like a normal rotary engine,”…

…The students officially unveiled their air-powered go-kart at Kartbahn Racing in Halifax’s Bayer’s Lake Business Park last week and invited members of the media to take it for a spin. The air-powered vehicle performed comparatively to the electric-powered carts in use. “We can do three laps here or just under two minutes going full out at 43 km/h with two tanks,” Mr. Langille explains.

Kartbahn owner Lucas Strackerjan, who graduated from Dalhousie in 2000 with a Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical) and a Bachelor of Science in Physics, was impressed with the finished product.

“As someone involved in not only go-kart racing, but the international racing industry, it’s important to find something that’s more advanced and could be accepted as sustainable energy,” says Mr. Strackerjan. “We set benchmarks for the electric cars and the air-powered car went right between them.”

The greatest drawback to the air-powered engine is that it runs out of air quickly. However, Mr. Strackerjan believes the engine will improve with refinements and could be a successor to conventional gas-powered engines….

Electric Unicycle Motorbike

Friday, September 5th, 2008

Saw this a while back and thought I would introduce it to this blog. It is not the first motorized unicycle, nor is it really a unicycle, as it has two wheels. However, it is curious as an extension of the Segway, and its inventor is 19 years old.  Go to http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-562726/Hold-tight-The-worlds-unicycle-MOTORBIKE.html to read the full article.

Hold on tight! The world’s first unicycle
MOTORBIKE


A young inventor has created a motorbike with a twist ? it uses two wheels but they are positioned right next to each other, giving it the illusion of being a powered unicycle. And even better, it might help save the planet.

Ben Gulak has spent several years building the electric Uno that uses gyroscopic technology - like the infamous Segway commuter device - to stay upright.

The bizarre-looking contraption has only one switch - on or off - and is controlled entirely by body movement.

The rider leans forwards to accelerate to speeds of 25mph and back to slow down. It has two wheels side-by-side and has been turning heads wherever it has been ridden.


Electric Unicycle and Inventor

Electric Unicycle and Inventor Ben Gulag

Ben Gulak designed the Uno himself with the help of a simple 3D program

The green machine is so small and light it can be taken indoors and carried into lifts - and is recharged by being plugged into the mains.

The wheels are completely independent, allowing the bike to turn on a sixpence and the technology takes the balance and guesswork out of riding a unicycle.

Its 18-year-old creator is now looking for investors to get the Uno into production and onto the streets.

Ben, from Ontario, Canada, said: “I was inspired to make the bike after visiting China a few years ago and seeing all the smog.

“They all drive little bikes that are really polluting and I wanted to make something to combat that.

“I started with the concept because if something doesn’t look cool people just won’t be interested.

Electric Unicycle and Inventor Brian Gulag

Electric Unicycle in operation


The Uno works like a Segway - just tilt your body forward to start moving

Ford testing ethanol injection with Ecoboost

Thursday, September 4th, 2008

I thought you may be interested in this from Ford.  To me, it is a modern incarnation of an older idea.  Back in the Fifties and Sixties, a few hotrodders used “water injection” to accomplish the same thing, namely cooling the combustion chamber to combat detonation, thus allowing higher compression.  Ford is using ethanol instead of water, accomplishing the same thing but getting heat from the combustion of the ethanol instead of absorbing heat from the vaporization of the water.  I also found it fascinating that they are using direct injection instead of port injection.  With a few exceptions, direct injection has heretofore been the sole province of diesels.  Go to http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10030963-48.html to read the full article.

Below is an excerpt from the article:

We haven’t been too excited about Ford’s Ecoboost tech, simply because it’s not really new tech. However, Ford’s next evolution of Ecoboost, code-named Bobcat, might be worth getting worked up about.

According to sources at PickupTrucks.com, the Bobcat is essentially a turbocharged engine running at a high compression ratio. Typically, this combination results in disaster, but Ford’s system has a trick up its sleeve in the form of ethanol injection.

The Bobcat builds on Ford’s Ecoboost engines by including a direct injected ethanol nozzle that adds small amounts of ethanol to the standard port injected air/fuel mixture. The ethanol cools the combustion chamber to prevent premature detonation, allowing the turbocharged engine to run extreme compression ratios.

The system promises 5 to 10 percent greater fuel economy than EcoBoost engines, which already promise a 20 percent increase over Ford’s traditional engines. Turbodiesel enthusiasts already know that high compression plus a turbo equals gobs of torque, which is why the Bobcat is speculated to be a potential replacement for the large diesel power plants that power Ford’s heavy- and super-duty trucks. A 5.0-liter turbo V-8 with ethanol boost could be rated at 500 horsepower and 700 foot-pounds of torque.

With the system’s lower entry cost combined with gasoline’s consistently lower cost per gallon, this system could be a viable alternative to diesel engines in the big trucks of the future.

PickupTrucks.com )

Ford’s Bobcat engine includes standard port injected gasoline supplemented by ethanol direct injection.

(Credit: PickupTrucks.com )

Honda VFR conversion to electric power

Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008

Here is an interesting electric vehicle conversion that may be considered for a future AFV Lab project or provide ideas for existing ones. Go to http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/07/07/honda-vfr-conversion-to-electric-power-now-complete/ to see the full article.  Comments?

Honda VFR conversion to electric power

evfr-honda-conversion

evfr-honda-conversion

…The first question out of everyone’s mouth was “How far does it go”… to which I replied “15-20 miles on crappy used UPS batteries I got for free”. I initially wanted to go with larger lead [acid batteries], but since these were free, I wanted to develop/test the mechanical first, and then upgrade to lithium in the fall. Its all working and now I can shop for alternatives to lead. Most people scoffed a little, I didn’t care, Its quite a feat in a motorcycle, especially keeping it stock looking. I know what the end result will be…. LiFePo and AC will eventually find their way into that bike. It will perform well, and range will be 30-40 miles….

…ABG: Tell us about the process of developing the conversion.

Gintz: I saw the Tesla last year, and decided I wanted to look into building an EV myself. I have an electrical engineering background, and LOVE gadgets, so it came naturally. I looked into cars, but for 10 grand, and lots of work, it might be over my budget. I’m a single guy living alone, so I don’t have 10 grand sitting around, just to get 30-50 miles for commuting. I drive a Dodge Durango, and gas is starting to hurt. I needed a cheap commuter solution. I looked at a popular site called EVAlbum. They had some other vehicles, and the more I looked into motorcycles, the more I was sold on the idea. I started looking for bikes, and found someone on Craigslist that had a roller with bad engine and donated it to me. Then I ran into some guys at a new startup company called Synkromotive, in Portland, OR. They wanted to help the conversion, and in exchange for a controller, I would do testing/assmembly and R&D. Its been a great relationship with Synkromotive. A few weeks later, while looking for parts for the free bike, I found one in Florida that had a bad engine, but was in pristine shape. I bought it, shipped it here, and parted out the engine, electrical and exhaust. I almost broke even. Very shortly after this, I found a guy up near Seattle that had tons of batteries he wasn’t using for his motorcycle, and another rolling chassis, it was well worth $60 in gas to go get it. So I had a good roller and batteries and a controller. Found a motor on a surplus website. Assembly began in February. Another VFR guy wanted to help, and had fabrication background. We welded up a battery tray and made a motor mount. A month ago, we threw everything together and took it out for its first few runs. It was a great feeling. After 8 months of getting parts, designing and building… it all paid off….

…Quick statistics:
1986 Honda VFR700F
Series wound Advanced DC motor
156V 600A Synkromotive controller
12 12V 18Ah batteries running in 2-72V strings. Capable of 144V. Switching to Lifepo soon
4:1 gear ratio, will be moving to ~5:1
Range: 15-20 on used batteries
Top speed: 65mph, one gear, no clutch
Charging system is custom…

Reviving the Electric ATV

Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008

2008 is going to be a great year for the AFV Lab.  We thought we’d start things off with a “running” start by getting the Electric ATV refurbished and running.

Dan and Peter took this project on, and in only two nights it had new batteries, a fresh coat of paint, some chrome wheels, and a spiffy detail job!  The E-Meter is even trying to work now, so we need to calibrate it and get it going as well.

All that’s left is putting the racks on and it will be alive and running for the open house on Wednesday!

The CVT isn’t working great…  Anyone familiar with Polaris Constant Velocity Transmissions?  It slips on anything other than a flat surface.  We were thinking about upgrading the system from 48V to 60V, but even 48V outpowers the CVT at the moment.  Get that tuned right and then we’ll look at putting on some more power.

Come to the open house!  It’s Wednesday at 6pm at the AFV lab!

Powered by Propane

Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008

I came across this website and thought I would throw it out for discussion.  I have excerpted a few items, but go to http://www.poweredbypropane.net/, to read the full information.

Welcome to Powered by Propane

Are you looking for a good propane conversion kit?  At poweredbypropane.net we provide propane power kits for 3,4,5,6, and 8 cylinder vehicles. From small engine propane conversion kits to auto propane conversions of larger vehicles we have the equipment and the design techniques to make your automobile run on propane.

Whether you are doing fleet automobile propane conversions or simply want propane conversion kits for your own vehicles, we have the auto propane conversion kits to convert your gas vehicle into a propane/gas hybrid. Do you own propane powered vehicles? Are you tired of being held hostage to the gas industry? Turn to automotive propane conversion and enjoy the ability to switch from a gas vehicle to a gas to propane conversion vehicle. For expertise turn to poweredbypropane.net for all you’re propane conversion needs!

What I found interesting about this setup is that it is dual fuel, as the gasoline system is left intact, and the system can be manually converted back to gasoline.  One could use the propane from a home tank for the majority of travel, then convert to gasoline when going on a trip.  Here is an excerpt

A miniature console is the only element of the system installed inside the drivers cabin. This small unit allows the driver to observe the level of propane in the tank(depends on what kind of tank setup you have), indicates the stages of employment of the ECU, and allows for a manual change from propane to gasoline.

The prices seem reasonable to me, too

Kit Contents: A Poweredbypropane conversion kit may not include all necessary mounting brackets for your particular vehicle as these kits are universal. The installer may need to fabricate brackets to mount LPG rails, Reducers or other components. All parts must be secured properly to ensure there are no leaks

3-4 Cylinder Conversion Kit

$1 195.00

5-6 Cylinder Conversion Kit

$1 375.00

8 Cylinder Conversion Kit

$1 650.00

I’m not familiar with the price of propane vs. the price of gasoline and therefore what the payout time would be for such a conversion.  I don’t know what the gas tax implications would be for this for using fuel that doesn’t have the gas tax included at purchase, either.

MIT recommends steps to slash gasoline use by 2035

Monday, September 1st, 2008

This item came to my attention this morning; I have excerpted the first few paragraphs.  To read the article, go to http://web.mit.edu/mitei/research/spotlights/slash-gas.html

It’s feasible—but challenging on many fronts

How much gasoline would the nation save in the year 2035 if lightweight hybrid and plug-in hybrid vehicles dominated the marketplace? More than 68 billion gallons, or about half the fuel currently used by today’s vehicles.

Detailed analyses in a new MIT report demonstrate that such changes are feasible. Indeed, the report concludes that over the next 25 years the fuel consumption of new vehicles could be reduced by 30-50 percent and total U.S. fuel use for vehicles could be cut to 2000 levels, with greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions cut by almost as much….

Comments?